Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/25/1999 08:03 AM House CRA

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HB 76 - MUNICIPAL TAXES ON DETERIORATED PROPERTY                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HARRIS announced the first order of business before the                                                             
committee would be HOUSE BILL NO. 76, "An Act relating to an                                                                    
exemption from and deferral of payment on municipal taxes on                                                                    
deteriorated property; and providing for an effective date."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO, Sponsor of HB 76, stated that HB 76 makes                                                                   
technical changes to HB 399 which was passed last year.  HB 399                                                                 
authorized municipal governments to exempt or defer municipal                                                                   
property taxes on deteriorated property in the hope that developers                                                             
would redevelop deteriorated properties into productive properties                                                              
ultimately placed on the tax rolls.  Co-Chairman Halcro explained                                                               
that HB 76 clarifies the following areas:  whether a municipality                                                               
may either partially or totally exempt a property from property                                                                 
taxes; provide an exemption that may begin any time on or before                                                                
substantial rehabilitation begins; and prohibit an exemption and                                                                
deferral of property taxes from being in effect simultaneously.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO noted that Representative Dyson had signed on as                                                             
a co-sponsor of HB 76.  The legislation has also been introduced in                                                             
the Senate.  The packet includes letters of support from the                                                                    
Anchorage Assembly, the Downtown Partnership, and the United                                                                    
Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America Local Union 1281.                                                              
The intent of HB 399 was to allow municipalities to renovate or                                                                 
encourage development of dilapidated properties.  One much                                                                      
discussed such property is the McKay Building.  The packet includes                                                             
photos of the proposed renovation of the McKay Building(ph).                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0337                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE noted that when HB 399 left Senate Rules last                                                              
year, the language "totally" was deleted.  He asked if Co-Chairman                                                              
Halcro knew why "totally" was deleted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO pointed out that the committee packet contains                                                               
testimony from Attorney Margaret Rawitz, who helped draft HB 76.                                                                
There is confusion as to why "totally" was deleted.  If a developer                                                             
is allowed to have a total exemption or deferral of property taxes,                                                             
then the developer does not pay taxes on the dilapidated property                                                               
while doing rehabilitation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HARRIS asked if the exemption would exempt the building                                                             
or would it include the property as well.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO said that the exemption would apply to the land                                                              
as well as the building.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 490                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI referred to the inserted language                                                                      
"beginning on or any time" which she understood from Ms. Rawitz's                                                               
letter that the language was inserted in order to provide the                                                                   
municipality flexibility.  Does this language provide the                                                                       
municipality the option to grant a referral three years after the                                                               
beginning of renovation?                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO explained that most municipalities are required                                                              
to begin tax referrals/exemptions on the first day of the year.  If                                                             
the rehabilitation does not begin until June, six months is lost.                                                               
This language provides the municipality with the flexibility to                                                                 
begin the tax deferral any time during the calendar year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI believed that the language left it very                                                                
open.  The language does not limit the referral/exemption to any                                                                
time in that given tax year.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO referred to Ms. Rawitz's testimony which says,                                                               
"The new language would allow a municipality to delay the exemption                                                             
and/or deferral until the renovation work has been substantially                                                                
completed."  He noted that there is a tremendous amount of local                                                                
control in this area.  The technical changes in HB 76 would allow                                                               
the municipality the flexibility, but approval at the city council                                                              
or assembly level would be necessary.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI expressed the need to make Ms. Rawitz's                                                                
comments clear in the language of the legislation.  Representative                                                              
Murkowski understood that this is an option given to the                                                                        
municipalities, but she expressed concern that this language is an                                                              
open-ended provision.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO referred to page 1, lines 8 through 10 which                                                                 
reads:  "A municipality may by ordinance permit deferral of payment                                                             
of taxes on all or some types of deteriorated property for up to                                                                
five years beginning on or any time after the day substantial                                                                   
rehabilitation, renovation, or replacement of any structure on the                                                              
property begins."  Co-Chairman Halcro said although the state                                                                   
statute may be open-ended, the municipalities are the local control                                                             
in this case.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0876                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARC MARLOW, Marlow Development Corporation, informed the committee                                                             
that last year HB 399 received 11-0 resolutional support from the                                                               
Anchorage Assembly, passed the House of Representatives 40-0,                                                                   
passed the Senate 19-0, and subsequently the Governor signed it                                                                 
into law.  The Anchorage Assembly passed an ordinance amending                                                                  
Municipal Code to reflect HB 399.  Mr. Marlow explained that the                                                                
municipal attorney requested clarification of some points which                                                                 
resulted in HB 76.  Mr. Marlow noted that he originally requested                                                               
that HB 76 be considered due to his opinion that Alaska has                                                                     
buildings that are deteriorating and aging.  This law, which many                                                               
states have in order to facilitate redevelopment of areas that                                                                  
would not otherwise be redeveloped, is patterned after a                                                                        
Pennsylvania law.  The McKay Building is an example of the benefit                                                              
of passing HB 76.  Mr. Marlow acknowledged that it could be some                                                                
time before this law would be utilized again since there are not a                                                              
tremendous amount of older buildings, but dealing with just the                                                                 
McKay Building would be worth the effort.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
With regards to the McKay Building, the design is finished, the                                                                 
plans have been turned into building safety, the building permit                                                                
number has been assigned to the project, and the plan review should                                                             
require eight to ten weeks in the process.  Mr. Marlow expressed                                                                
appreciation in making these amendments to afford the municipal                                                                 
attorney more comfort with the language.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1109                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW explained that the McKay Building could not move forward                                                             
as a straight business deal without this law.  Even with the                                                                    
property tax exemption and deferral, the McKay Building project is                                                              
having difficulties.  This will help the municipality have more                                                                 
funds in the treasury for property taxes long-term.  Currently, the                                                             
McKay Building does not provide any revenue and would cost                                                                      
approximately $3 million of tax payer money to tear down the                                                                    
building.  Under this scenario, the McKay Building would create                                                                 
many jobs and in 10 years the municipality would receive                                                                        
approximately $200,000 per year in property taxes.  The area                                                                    
surrounding the building would increase in value; this would be the                                                             
beginning of a renewal on the east end of downtown Anchorage.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI mentioned her specific interest in the                                                                 
McKay Building since it is a blight in her personal skyline.  She                                                               
asked if the July 1, 1999 effective date of HB 76 would affect the                                                              
development process.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1221                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW replied no.  He explained that the property tax                                                                      
exemption and deferral that any municipality may pass does not go                                                               
into effect until there is performance.  This prevents                                                                          
municipalities from extending property tax exemptions and deferrals                                                             
on property that is never renovated.  Mr. Marlow said that the                                                                  
performance on the McKay Building would not be completed until well                                                             
into 2000.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW said that it does not matter when the exemption and                                                                  
deferral begin.  The language was inserted to allow the exemption                                                               
and deferral to begin the next tax year after completion of the                                                                 
project, after the performance was accomplished.  Mr. Marlow                                                                    
pointed out that if the exemption and/or deferral began three years                                                             
after the completion of the project, the property would be paying                                                               
property taxes in between.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW, in further response to Representative Murkowski,                                                                    
reiterated that the redevelopment design for the McKay Building is                                                              
complete and has been turned into Building Safety in Anchorage and                                                              
that process would take approximately eight weeks.  The financing                                                               
vehicle is in the third phase of a four phase period of                                                                         
consideration which would not be completed any earlier than 60 days                                                             
from now.  Mr. Marlow hoped the renovation would be started in July                                                             
or early August and would require approximately 11 months to                                                                    
complete.  By the summer of 2000, people should be able to move                                                                 
into a safe and renovated McKay Building.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW informed the committee that last year a market study by                                                              
a Seattle research firm concluded that the McKay Building's 123                                                                 
unit apartments would be filled within four months of its                                                                       
completion.  The target market for these apartments is anyone, but                                                              
Mr. Marlow believed that it would be appealing to the young, 20                                                                 
something person, who works downtown.  The marketing will take                                                                  
place in the newspaper and the Internet.  In response to                                                                        
Co-Chairman Harris, Mr. Marlow felt the McKay Building would be                                                                 
renamed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1475                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
STEVE VAN SANT, State Assessor, Department of Community & Regional                                                              
Affairs, testified via teleconference from Anchorage.  He noted                                                                 
that he did not have a chance to testify on HB 399 last year and                                                                
had not talked with Representative Halcro about HB 76, but had                                                                  
discussed SB 54 with Senator Kelly.  Mr. Van Sant directed the                                                                  
committee to the language on  page 1, lines 9-10 which Co-Chairman                                                              
Halcro said was intended to allow the exemption to begin any time                                                               
during the year.  To date, all exemptions in Alaska begin the first                                                             
day of the tax year, January 1, and the supreme court has ruled on                                                              
that matter.  Therefore, Mr. Van Sant expressed concern with                                                                    
allowing partial year exemptions.  With regard to the McKay                                                                     
Building, Mr. Van Sant would recommend to Anchorage that the                                                                    
exemption begin January 1 which seemed to be what Mr. Marlow                                                                    
indicated.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN SANT referred to page 1, lines 13-14 which does not                                                                     
indicate that the municipality may collect interest on deferred                                                                 
taxes.  Currently, only one statute allows deferment of taxes which                                                             
is the agricultural exemption and deferment.  The agricultural                                                                  
exemption and deferment allows the municipality to collect deferred                                                             
taxes with interest at eight percent.  Mr. Van Sant suggested                                                                   
language specifying that the municipality would not lose interest                                                               
on deferred taxes should be added.  He believed it would be almost                                                              
administratively impossible to as lines 13-14 say, "if ownership of                                                             
only part of the property is transferred, all tax payments                                                                      
attributable to that part are immediately due ...."  If ownership                                                               
is transferred, Mr. Van Sant wanted all deferred tax payments to be                                                             
due and payable at that time, including the eight percent interest.                                                             
Mr. Van Sant noted that as a state assessor he is typically opposed                                                             
to exemptions and deferments.  However, in the case of the McKay                                                                
Building, Mr. Van Sant applauded Mr. Marlow's plans and reluctantly                                                             
backed down from his usual stance understanding this would be for                                                               
the good of the community and would like for the project to move                                                                
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1689                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HARRIS asked if Mr. Van Sant suggested on page 1, line                                                              
13 after "immediately due" insert "interest".                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN SANT clarified that on page 1, line 13 delete "only" and                                                                
insert "any" and on line 14 after "payments" insert "including                                                                  
interest at eight percent" and delete "to that part".  On page 2,                                                               
line 1 delete "attributable to that part".  In further response to                                                              
Co-Chairman Harris, Mr. Van Sant explained that eight percent                                                                   
interest is desirable because that is consistent with the statutes                                                              
for agricultural deferments.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1800                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW agreed with Mr. Van Sant that once the property is                                                                   
transferred, the deferred portion of the taxes should be paid.                                                                  
However, the interest on this type of exemption or deferral was                                                                 
specifically avoided.  Mr. Marlow explained, "When a person applies                                                             
for and receives a farm deferral, what they are saying is:  I have                                                              
a piece of property that in the open market place might be worth                                                                
many, many more dollars than than what I'm using it for.  And so,                                                               
I want that, you know, it might be assessed at a value that's much                                                              
higher than its use as a farm.  And so, a person applies for the                                                                
farm deferral and the taxes back seven years are counted at the                                                                 
lower rate, but the interest that -- the interest accrues so that                                                               
when that farmer decides I'm going to sell my property now on the                                                               
open market place and collect all this money that I wasn't paying                                                               
taxes for here; kind of recompensates the municipality for the                                                                  
taxes that they weren't paying on a higher value back seven years."                                                             
In this case, Mr. Marlow explained this addresses property that                                                                 
without this incentive would have no hope of being renovated. Such                                                              
a property would then be placed back in the market place and made                                                               
taxable at its highest value.  Mr. Marlow emphasized that applying                                                              
interest to a deferred portion would be a disincentive to those                                                                 
goals.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI asked if the issue regarding interest had                                                              
surfaced during prior discussions.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW could not testify if the issue of interest publicly                                                                  
surfaced in the past.  Certainly, the issue of interest was                                                                     
considered during the creation of the legislation.  Interest was                                                                
specifically avoided with respect to the deferred portion.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1992                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HARRIS restated Mr. Van Sant's point that state statute                                                             
only allows tax deferrals to begin January 1 which would seem to be                                                             
at odds with the language on page 1, line 9.  Co-Chairman Harris                                                                
asked if Mr. Marlow would have a problem with including language                                                                
indicating the deferral would begin at the beginning of the tax                                                                 
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW believed that the language in HB 76 was used in order to                                                             
allow the municipality to begin the deferral and/or exemption the                                                               
following tax year after performance to be compliant with state                                                                 
law.  Mr. Marlow did not recall any discussion or intent to allow                                                               
the exemption in July or August.  Mr. Marlow said that whatever                                                                 
would be necessary to ensure clarity on that issue would be fine.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO noted that Ms. Rawitz drafted an ordinance for                                                               
the Municipality of Anchorage which created a tax exemption and                                                                 
deferral program.  Co-Chairman Halcro read the following from Ms.                                                               
Rawitz's testimony:  "Since most municipalities would prefer to (or                                                             
are required to) begin a period of exemption or deferral on the                                                                 
first day of the tax year, it is appropriate to permit an exemption                                                             
to begin at any time on or after the beginning of renovation, since                                                             
renovation is not likely to begin on the first day of the tax                                                                   
year."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HARRIS inquired as to the legality of the language.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW said that he believed that was the intent.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN SANT stated that he was comfortable with the language, as                                                               
long as the record reflects that the intent of the committee was                                                                
not to change the manner in which exemptions are attached as of                                                                 
January 1.  From working with the municipality and its attorney on                                                              
this ordinance, the day Mr. Marlow broke ground would be the day                                                                
the exemption would begin.  Mr. Van Sant further understood the                                                                 
intent was to have a delay of a year until more substantial                                                                     
completion was accomplished which is what Mr. Van Sant understood                                                               
the reasoning to be for this language.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2182                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW agreed.  The exemption should not be initiated until the                                                             
performance or substantial completion has been accomplished and the                                                             
next tax year begins.  Mr. Marlow agreed with Mr. Van Sant's                                                                    
assessment of the intent of the language regarding the beginning of                                                             
the exemption or deferral.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO said that HB 76 is a win-win situation for all                                                               
communities.  Co-Chairman Halcro used the McKay Building project as                                                             
an example of how this legislation would be beneficial.  This                                                                   
legislation would allow a developer to invest money in the McKay                                                                
Building which once on the property tax rolls would reduce                                                                      
everyone's property taxes in Anchorage, employ people, and create                                                               
a foundation in the neighborhood.  Co-Chairman Halcro said he would                                                             
appreciate support on HB 76.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2310                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DYSON moved to report HB 76 out of committee with                                                                
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                   
There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease from 8:37 a.m. to 8:40 a.m.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI moved that the committee rescind its                                                                   
action on HB 76 for the purposes of an amendment.  There being no                                                               
objection, HB 76 was before the committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2350                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI moved the committee adopt the following                                                                
amendment:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 13                                                                                                            
     Delete "only"                                                                                                              
     Insert "any"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 14                                                                                                            
     Delete "to that part"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 1                                                                                                             
     After "due", delete "and the deferral attributable to that                                                                 
     part ends."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Therefore, the language on page 1, lines 13-14 would read:  "if                                                                 
ownership of any part of the property is transferred, all tax                                                                   
payments attributable are immediately due."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HALCRO pointed out that deleting "to that part" would                                                               
mean that the taxes would be due on the whole property not just the                                                             
sole portion.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI understood from Mr. Marlow's testimony                                                                 
that if any part of the ownership was transferred, at that time any                                                             
deferred taxes would be due.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARLOW indicated that was correct.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN HARRIS asked if there was objection to the amendment.                                                               
There being no objection, the amendment was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 2490                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DYSON moved to report CSHB 76(CRA) out of committee                                                              
with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                              
There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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